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Junkfood Science: No fat people allowed: Only the slim will be allowed to dine in public!

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It has actually happened. Lawmakers have proposed legislation that forbids restaurants and food establishments from serving food to anyone who is obese (as defined by the State). Under this bill, food establishments are to be monitored for compliance under the State Department of Health and violators will have their business permits revoked.
I called lead author, Rep. Mayhall, and asked if this was serious legislation or tongue-in-cheek to make a point. He kindly took a moment to answer my question while the legislature was in session. He said that while, regrettably, he doesn't believe his bill will pass, this is serious. He wrote it, he said, because of the "urgency of the obesity crisis and need for government action." He hopes it will "call attention to the serious problem of obesity and what it is costing the Medicare system."

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{"commentId":1425439,"authorDomain":"songbird6"}

Talk about big government...and invasion of rights...and just plain stupidity.

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  • 3 votes
Reply#1 - Fri Feb 1, 2008 10:40 AM EST
{"commentId":1425724,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}

This babe has her first link to Steve Milloy's Junk Science, which means she's either part of the PR astroturf or too misinformed to be of help. Generally these articles are used to create support for some bill whose real objective is to keep toxic %$#@ going into food while claiming to protect some consumer right.

Steven J. Milloy is a columnist for Fox News and a paid advocate for Phillip Morris, ExxonMobil and other corporations. From the 1990s until the end of 2005, he was an adjunct scholar at the libertarian think tank the Cato Institute.

Milloy runs the website Junkscience.com, which is dedicated to debunking what he alleges to be false claims regarding global warming, DDT, environmental radicalism and scare science among other topics.

The Junkscience web site was supposedly run by a pseudo-grassroots organisation called TASSC (The Advancement for Sound Science Coalition), which initially paid ex-Governor Curruthers of New Mexico as a front. Milloy actually ran it from the back-room, and issued the press releases. Then when Curruthers resigned, Milloy started to call himself "Director" (Bonner Cohen - another of the same ilk also working for APCO - became "President")

Initially all of this was funded by Philip Morris, as part of their contributions to the distortion of tobacco science, but later they widened out the focus and introduced even more funding by establishing a coalition -- with energy, pharmaceutical, chemical companies. TASSC's funders include 3M, Amoco, Chevron, Dow Chemical, Exxon, General Motors, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Lorillard Tobacco, Louisiana Chemical Association, National Pest Control Association, Occidental Petroleum, Philip Morris Companies, Procter & Gamble, Santa Fe Pacific Gold, and W.R. Grace, the asbestos and pesticide manufacturers.

TASSC was then exposed publicly as a fraud. And so Milloy established the "Citizens for the Integrity of Science" to take over the running of the Junkscience.com web site.

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  • 6 votes
#1.1 - Fri Feb 1, 2008 11:57 AM EST
{"commentId":1429557,"authorDomain":"songbird6"}

Yes, I know about the site, but the bill does sound stupid.

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  • 2 votes
#1.2 - Sat Feb 2, 2008 5:15 PM EST
{"commentId":1429614,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}
House Bill 282 was introduced in the 2008 Mississippi legislative session on Friday by Representative W.T. Mayhall, Jr., a retired pharmaceutical salesman with DuPont-Merk. Its co-authors are Bobby Shows, a businessman, and John Read, a pharmacist.

This is an industry sponsored bit of legislation that was done to achieve a specific objective. Either with some rider or to create a polarizing support for some other bill that has something in it for them. Maybe it's to promote sales of a drug treatment for weight loss, but nothing this stupid sounding goes to the proposal stage without big money behind it.

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  • 2 votes
#1.3 - Sat Feb 2, 2008 5:38 PM EST
{"commentId":1429861,"authorDomain":"songbird6"}
nothing this stupid sounding goes to the proposal stage without big money behind it.

It's quite possible, even probable.

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  • 2 votes
#1.4 - Sat Feb 2, 2008 7:46 PM EST
{"commentId":1434514,"authorDomain":"hamid"}

songbird6, Pamela,

In the words of Ronald Reagan, Here they go again. A retired pharmaceutical rep? He's not retired, he just got himself planted into the legislation machine. I think you're right Pamela, a ridiculous bill, followed by a suggestion of a "Safe" pharmaceutical and more humane solution to this epidemic of obesity, I definitely sense a sales pitch coming. Let's not forget that this "coalition" is what's causing the obesity in the first place, their strategy is: Cause it, then treat it, a win-win profit generating practice, and what do the people do? They thank them for it!

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  • 3 votes
#1.5 - Mon Feb 4, 2008 12:56 PM EST
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{"commentId":1425496,"authorDomain":"kylen"}

Wow can't even wait to get started on it, after the excuse of universal health care rolls around they will have a much better chance - then it can be dictated not legislated always the easier route to go.

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  • 1 vote
Reply#2 - Fri Feb 1, 2008 10:58 AM EST
{"commentId":1426535,"authorDomain":"inghar2004"}

Kyle, you're right. It seems like another step in the direction of the nanny-state, completely running our lives from the cradle to the grave. Enforced conformity, and not just in weight of course.

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    #2.1 - Fri Feb 1, 2008 3:33 PM EST
    {"commentId":1434524,"authorDomain":"hamid"}

    It's not the government, it's the corporate conglomerates operating through government. This bill was created by former pharmaceutical people, and I don't think former is accurate.

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    • 2 votes
    #2.2 - Mon Feb 4, 2008 12:58 PM EST
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    {"commentId":1425607,"authorDomain":"jdmiller82"}

    Obesity may be a crisis in this nation, but discrimination against "state defined" obese people, will not solve the problem.

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    • 6 votes
    Reply#3 - Fri Feb 1, 2008 11:28 AM EST
    {"commentId":1425755,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}

    Digging more on Sandy Szwark shows she is an industry hack.

    She has written several article mitigating the effects of mercury toxicity on humans, disputing the scientific research which has shown that methyl mercury harms consumers of fish and that mercury spills in schools are harmful to children.

    She has argued that the United States' Environmental Protection Agency should allow greater maximum levels of mercury released into the air. She has also written to argue against legislation restricting or banning phthalates, asserting that the chemical poses no threat to the health of infants, and genetically modified organisms as a danger to future agriculture.

    On her former website, swfoodie.com, she has also published articles, including one claiming contracting mad cow disease is essentially no threat to humans.

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    • 2 votes
    Reply#4 - Fri Feb 1, 2008 12:06 PM EST
    {"commentId":1426131,"authorDomain":"katrixx"}

    If we're going to ban obese people from dining in public, we should also make it a crime to sell them twinkies or other junk food in stores. From there, we can make it a crime to allow them to purchase cars or ride public transportation - after, walking or bicycling will help them lose weight too. And they should be treated as sex offenders are in many communities on Halloween - with the goal of making them avoid the leftover candy, not the children.

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    • 2 votes
    Reply#5 - Fri Feb 1, 2008 1:45 PM EST
    {"commentId":1426539,"authorDomain":"whackedman"}

    Bah, who wants to see fat people eating anyway?

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    • 1 vote
    Reply#6 - Fri Feb 1, 2008 3:35 PM EST
    {"commentId":1429920,"authorDomain":"cynna66"}

    Well, in that case, who wants to see skinny people eat? Hell, why don't we just do away with public dining altogether?

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    • 3 votes
    #6.1 - Sat Feb 2, 2008 8:27 PM EST
    {"commentId":1430239,"authorDomain":"whackedman"}

    Joke.

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    • 3 votes
    #6.2 - Sat Feb 2, 2008 10:59 PM EST
    {"commentId":1434545,"authorDomain":"hamid"}

    Whacked Man,

    Good thing, I think there really are some people who do feel that way. Forgive cynna66, you'd be surprised how many times we've assumed a joke where there wasn't one, but don't be discouraged, we desperately need humor here on the vine, especially with the heated topics...

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    • 3 votes
    #6.3 - Mon Feb 4, 2008 1:02 PM EST
    {"commentId":1438229,"authorDomain":"cynna66"}

    Yes, sorry about jumping down your throat. Things like this get me fired up and I end up getting snarky when I shouldn't. Begging your pardon.

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    • 1 vote
    #6.4 - Tue Feb 5, 2008 2:44 PM EST
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    {"commentId":1427196,"authorDomain":"headinthegame"}

    first they came for fat people, and I said nothing...

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    • 2 votes
    Reply#7 - Fri Feb 1, 2008 7:29 PM EST
    {"commentId":1427615,"authorDomain":"cynna66"}

    How ridiculous. First of all, America is facing an obesity epidemic because A.) The quality of food has declined , B.) Because we no longer have to MOVE to feed ourselves (ie. we sit at desks all day instead of working fields or other such physical labor) C.) People eat to combat stress from those desk jobs.

    What the hell would banning fat people from eating in public do? Might as well cull back those civil rights and women's liberties too, because you know it's related somehow. *rolls eyes*

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    • 7 votes
    Reply#8 - Fri Feb 1, 2008 10:39 PM EST
    {"commentId":1432980,"authorDomain":"joseph-iluminou"}

    And wouldn't forbidding the overweight from eating at an actual restaurant make them more likely to take edible-refuge somewhere else? Say, McDonald's?

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    • 2 votes
    #8.1 - Mon Feb 4, 2008 12:07 AM EST
    {"commentId":1434574,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}

    If you read the top comments you will see this is tied to a drug company rep. These articles are planted by astroturf groups to create support for fake consumer rights and pass counter legislation to include toxic ingredients or other damaging laws for the public and beneficial for fast food and drug companies!

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    • 2 votes
    #8.2 - Mon Feb 4, 2008 1:13 PM EST
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    {"commentId":1435026,"authorDomain":"katrixx"}

    Why not do something that actually makes sense, like help make fresh produce and healthy foods more available to people in cities and remote rural areas (believe it or not, it's a problem in rural areas too), instead of something stupid like this?

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    • 2 votes
    Reply#9 - Mon Feb 4, 2008 3:35 PM EST
    {"commentId":1435420,"authorDomain":"PamelaDrew"}

    Try Local Harvest that connects the small farmers who are struggling and the consumers as well as CoOps and Community CSA programs. They will search by zip code and distance, its a great resource for food.

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    • 3 votes
    #9.1 - Mon Feb 4, 2008 5:29 PM EST
    {"commentId":1438218,"authorDomain":"cynna66"}

    There is also EatWild too you can try. Will also hook you up with local organic/freerange/grassfed meat, eggs, and milk through farmers in your area.

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    • 1 vote
    #9.2 - Tue Feb 5, 2008 2:41 PM EST
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    {"commentId":1435569,"authorDomain":"eskimobabee"}

    While your at it ban ugly people too. I dont like looking at ugly people when I eat.

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      Reply#10 - Mon Feb 4, 2008 6:20 PM EST
      {"commentId":1438074,"authorDomain":"songbird6"}
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      • 1 vote
      Reply#11 - Tue Feb 5, 2008 2:02 PM EST
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